Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Getting Back to Wade: On Culture

Getting back to our definitions, let's talk about culture.  According to Dr. Dennis O'Neill of Palomar College
[C]ulture is the full range of learned human behavior patterns. The term was first used in this way by the pioneer English Anthropologist Edward B. Tylor in his book, Primitive Culture, published in 1871. Tylor said that culture is "that complex whole which includes knowledge, belief, art, law, morals, custom, and any other capabilities and habits acquired by man as a member of society." Of course, it is not limited to men. Women possess and create it as well. Since Tylor's time, the concept of culture has become the central focus of anthropology.

In a comment on Google Plus, Wade Long said:
Take all the time you need, K. But it won't change the facts - there is no such thing as "White Culture" or "Black Culture". Those are skin colors.
Allow me to present one of the New York Public Library System's most prestigious collections, the Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture. Named after Afro-Puerto Rican scholar Arturo Alfonso Schomburg, the Schomburg Center contains over 150,000 volumes, 85,000 microforms, 6,000 serials (including 400 black newspapers and 1,000 current periodicals) and over 500,000 photographs, prints and graphics
The Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture, a research unit of The New York Public Library, is generally recognized as one of the leading institutions of its kind in the world. For over 80 years the Center has collected, preserved, and provided access to materials documenting black life, and promoted the study and interpretation of the history and culture of peoples of African descent.
Moving west to Pittsburgh, we have the August Wilson Center for African-American Culture, while the University of Chicago offers A Celebration of Black Culture in Chicago and the University of Southern California has the Center for Black Cultural and Student Affairs. Going to Amazon, we find (among others) Black Culture and Black Consciousness: Afro-American Folk Thought from Slavery to FreedomBlack Noise: Rap Music and Black Culture in Contemporary America and The African American Experience: Black History and Culture Through Speeches, Letters, Editorials, Poems, Songs, and Stories.

It appears that the phrase "Black Culture" has some meaning to Americans (of color and otherwise) living around the continental United States. Wade may stamp his feet and insist that "there is no such thing as... 'Black Culture,'" until he wears out his shoes, but it would appear that many disagree with his conclusion.

Wade also said:
There IS no such thing as "White Culture", in the sense that all white people are the same in some particular way. Not even here in America.
Whether or not that is true in America, one could question whether it was true of the people at Pantheacon.  They are not only overwhelmingly white, but overwhelmingly middle to upper-middle class, politically liberal and college-educated.  For all Pantheacon's soothing talk about "Unity in Diversity," their attendees are more diverse than a typical fraternity only insofar as they didn't all attend the same college.

Despite claims to the contrary,
Wade is down with cultural diversity.
When I pointed this out I also provided input from some pagans of color as to why they feel shut out of Pagan gatherings. This appears to have struck a nerve with Wade, who seems to think that pointing out the cultural, class and racial homogeneity of the Pagan community - and suggesting that we might use the Pagan interest in various practices like Santeria, Hoodoo, etc. as a way of building bridges between disparate communities rather than simply treating them like a natural resource we can exploit for our own benefit - is somehow "racist." 

Let us assume that a culture is the acquired "knowledge, belief, art, law, morals, custom, and any other capabilities and habits" of a particular society or subculture (Dr. O'Neill makes that distinction on his webpage, which is well worth reading).  In doing so we will be in the academic and intellectual mainstream. Should Wade (or anyone else) propose an alternate definition, he would have to provide some compelling reasons why his use of the term was more accurate and compelling than the common use.

Using that common definition, it would only stand to reason that the best way to learn about a culture - and a culture's magic - would be from a member of that culture.  There's nothing racist, classist or ethnocentrist about that claim. If I wanted to learn about ballet, I'd do much better learning from a person who had spent decades practicing the art rather than reading books about the subject or watching Black Swan.  If I wanted to learn how to cook like an Italian grandmother, who could teach me better than an Italian grandmother? And if I wanted to learn how to most properly and effectively work with Santa Muerte, why would I not want to study with a Mexican whose grandmother and great-great grandmother had served her? Why, that is, unless I was frightened or contemptuous of people of color and wanted to practice their cool and spooky forms of magic without actually engaging with them?

4 comments:

MasonPiper said...

I like what you have said here and it has percolated some thoughts about pCon that I have been dealing with. I was thinking in terms of politics and other divisions that made me feel a bit unwelcome during sessions and discussion there, but culture seems to be a better way to describe it.
“”””Whether or not that is true in America, one could question whether it was true of the people at Pantheacon. They are not only overwhelmingly white, but overwhelmingly middle to upper-middle class, politically liberal and college-educated. For all Pantheacon's soothing talk about "Unity in Diversity," their attendees are more diverse than a typical fraternity only insofar as they didn't all attend the same college.”””
Agreed, I looked like the rest but wasn’t. I am a 50yo, Hetero, Multi-Racial (Spanish, Native, Hillbilly) and Cultural (part of them all), Male, Social Liberal, Fiscal Conservative, Gun toter, Hunter Gatherer, Farmer, Magician, Gnostic (Christian), Father, and Husband. Middle Class and 4 Master’s Degrees (can’t write that big paper), taught by my Uncle to be a Brujo, learned knowin from my granny and keep checking things out from different sources, learning things and loving it. So I intersect with part of that culture, but felt that I did not really fit in. I did feel welcome by individual PEOPLE at pCon, but in most group discussions, I certainly did not open my mouth, to deviate from the norm, per above, would have been social suicide. I would add and maybe this supports Wade’s argument that there is not one White culture but many. Even black culture is fragmented. I grew up in New Mexico and worked as a cowboy among other things. I would say that “cowboy culture” from out west trumped either Spanish, Black, or White culture when compared to a, let us say Boston, counterpart.
I do like Dr. O’Neill’s definition and will accept that there is a Black, White, Native, Latino, etc. culture, but that other divisions such as regional need to be included and not just as a subculture.
“”””Why, that is, unless I was frightened or contemptuous of people of color and wanted to practice their cool and spooky forms of magic without actually engaging with them?”””
I agree, and most people I have asked to teach me have welcomed the opportunity, regardless of my background, they saw someone who wanted to learn, not just the practice, but what makes that practice work and how it grew.

Wade said...

"It appears that the phrase "Black Culture" has some meaning to Americans (of color and otherwise) living around the continental United States."

You actually sat down and composed that sentence, and didn't get the hilarious irony of how you essentially just proved my point.

America isn't a skin color. There are black people all over the world who aren't "African American" because they're NOT AMERICAN.

Do you see what I'm saying yet? There might be "Black New England Culture" or "Black Cuban"
culture, but there is no such thing as one single monolithic culture that encompasses all human beings with black skin.

For example, even your "white knight link" the Schomberg Center, *by its own definition* doesn't even acknowledge that there is any such thing as "black culture". From its page:

"The Schomburg Center promotes the study of the histories and cultures of peoples of African descent and interprets its collections through exhibitions, publications, and educational, scholarly and cultural programs."

"African Descent". No mention of skin color. All races, creeds and skin colors are represented in Africa, K. And they're all different. It's not one single culture. I suppose you just googled "black culture" and took whatever came up, focusing on the nomenclature rather than the spirit of what I last wrote.

Every single link you posted goes to some reference to black people WITHIN a larger culture. This pretty much underlines exactly what I've been saying.

Thanks for doing the legwork for me.

Wade said...

"Using that common definition, it would only stand to reason that the best way to learn about a culture - and a culture's magic - would be from a member of that culture. "

Ah, and now you're moving the goalposts again! I can always tell when you're starting to realize you're wrong.

See, learning magic isn't the same thing as "studying a culture". I can study Enochian without having to know a single thing about Elizabethan politics. I can study Huna without having to learn how to hula dance. These are things that apparently didn't crystallize for you until I pointed them out.

When I read about Palo, I don't need to know anything about Cuban culture that doesn't impact the practice. I don't need to travel there. I certainly don't *need* to have a Cuban right there to tell me that my white ass is now permitted to read the book.

Yes, all these things would help (mostly in terms of language - Cuban Spanish is a real bitch), but contrary to your initial claim it IS possible for whites to do.

Of course, you've since backed off your original claim and watered it down so much that it's barely recognizable.

I guess that means you learned something.

Seshat Anqet Het Her said...

To use Wade's comment,"I can study Enochian without having to know a single thing about Elizabethan politics. I can study Huna without having to learn how to hula dance." is the type of oversimplification that some people resort to to prove they don't have to read, study, immerse themselves into anything that deviates from their comfort zone. Enochian magic is based on the language of angels, therefore it has nothing to do with Elizabethan culture or politics. If I wished to understand why John Dee was not labelled a witch for his practices, then I would have to study Elizabethan culture and politics. When we call a belief system 'earth based' that means that the energy associated with that belief system has very much to do with the physical aspect of that system, which includes the people, their blood ancestry, their ancestors and guardian spirits of the lands that birthed those systems, and the land itself. Yes, you can read a book on Palo, but I'm pretty sure your magic, or your juju, will not be as powerful as someone who came from that culture or one that has been formally adopted by the spirits of that culture. You do not get the protection of the nKisi and Palo ancestors by reading a book. You will not get non-published 'secrets' of Palo initiation and are more likely to get into serious trouble with the spirits if you don't know the subtle nuances in approaching them correctly - which you can only get if you join a house and have godparents. That's what many white Americans don't understand or want to accept. It may very well be due to their insecurity - the drawback to being 'melting pots' is having difficulty in determining their ancestry and deciding which ancestors are to be more important and petitioned in magical practice. Also another reason why ancestor reverence is not popular in American neo-Paganism. It's easier to ignore this complicated notion and be dismissive of proponents of cultural identity and adherence in magical practice. Another thing I am seeing is this ideological flip-flopping coming from white Americans who deny the importance, or existence of race, now that it's ok for them to pursue spirituality outside the bosom of Eurocentric Christianity. Now all of a sudden, race isn't important, when it WAS important to their ancestors 50 - 100 years ago, so much so that they had to have Jim Crow laws to make sure the 'colored' folk stayed away from them. It's important now that we have a "Black" president, even though his mother is white . So who (collectively) is "moving the goalposts" to suit their agenda?

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